It is a lot of things one of which is incredibly naive.
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Gav Electrofried to what end?
There’s the alliance for green socialism which sounds like what you’re after, but they’re in no danger of getting anyone elected to anything any time soon.
Sure destroy the only effective voice for ecological sanity and the corporations and oiligarchies will love you…
Such a destructive posting. Divide and conquer…
I am with Occupy – the 99% need to unite to tackle the huge destructive power of the 1% and create a 100%.
Even if you were right, in an electoral system that makes it near impossible for the Green Party to get even one MP, such an approach would ensure Brexit Ukip Tories remain in power ad infinitum.
In order for a Left party to get votes it must find a way to avoid the wrath of the Neoliberal media.
Andy Sweeney It is essential that we achieve greater unity and are willing to make compromises if we want to achieve changes fuelled by a green-driven left wing agenda.
This isn’t going to happen with even more splintering and the birth of yet another political party. We already have the framework in place in established parties, but we need less partisan attitudes, less intransigence on the minority issues when agreement can be made about the majority.
When you get thousands (if not millions) of people together, coming to a consensus is virtually impossible. The worst thing people can do when the party does not follow their exact agenda is to leave and try to “go it alone” with like minded individuals.
The whole reason the Tory party are so successful, despite all of their dismal failures and environmental/economic shortsightedness, is because they unify under the tribalism of conservatism when it comes down to it.
More left wing parties aren’t going to solve this particular problem.
Philip Leicester In our political system there are no gaps for any radical political party. The real fight is to secure our democracy before a permanent neoliberal lock-in occurs (and yeah whilst I’m at it, if you think exiting a neoliberal EU, handing total power to the extreme fundamentalist neoliberal Tory/UKIP alliance in the absence of any real democracy has done the British Working Class any favours, Neil then yeah please form another party.)
I don’t think the GP is averse to doing class politics; our good intention is reflected in many of our policies, particularly on trade union/workers rights, workplace democracy, pay, taxation and welfare.
The real problem is we’re all floundering, even Labour is floundering. We do not know how to listen to the concerns of working people, and no idea how to communicate our politics or argue why the new and old right right have no solutions to their concerns, but we do. And, as far as being of and for the working class we’re clearly miles away.
We know that the working class have never acted in isolation; the roles of middle and upper class activists, academics, cultural theorists etc who are allies in the emancipation of the working class is as relevant today as it ever was. Now is not the time to fragment, but to pull together.
Philip Leicester Context is everything; the Netherlands has one of the most proportional election systems in Europe. Which is why I begun “In our political system . . . ”
The left has to prioritise democracy. And the left which does not get democracy needs to be flagged up as the obstacle they truly are, including large swathes of the Labour Party.
Roger Lewis Bit of a stream of conciousness coming up Agree with the OP but urge praxis and pedagodgy.
Epigraph
This book is intended for normal, mainstream, secular, modern, disaffected and alienated intellectuals; those who are complicit in political correctness (as are all intellectuals) but who are (when not distracted, drugged or dreaming) in a state of despair.
This book will, I hope, help such people to understand their condition, and present the likely choices. It will not help them to save their world (too late for that) but it may help them to save their souls.
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Note: Why I use the term Political Correctness, instead of Liberalism or Socialism?
The reasons include:
1. The confusion over what ‘liberalism’ means – to some a free marketeer, to others a socialist. My definition of political correctness is broad and includes most mainstream conservatives, libertarians and anarchists; who are nowadays all significantly PC.
http://thoughtprison-pc.blogspot.se/
http://addictedtodistraction.blogspot.se/
Thus, the major output of the modern international Mass Media consists of only four categories:
1. Good presented as bad
2. Bad presented as Good
(That is to say simple inversion)
3. Good presented as Good for a bad reason
4. Bad presented as bad for a bad reason
(That is to say explanatory inversion)
These four categories, which can be summarized as either simple or explanatory inversion, account for all sustained and high impact modern major Mass Media stories without any exceptions.
https://isgp-studies.com/ngo-list-foundations-and-think…
If you look at Carolines members interests donations you will see there is no doubt that the GPEW leadership is deeply Liberal.
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Saw this the other day posted on Green Left I think.
http://metamoderna.org/what-is-the-alt-left-about?lang=en
The problem is that Political education and discourse are so poorly communicated. Read Pedagogy of the Oppressed and what will become apparent is Political liberation is a Praxis and not a party. Freedom is something you live and do not something you join.
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